Yes but I'm sure it doesn't happen that way. Anyway, good posts there, you really needed to make a lot of them because you just came here to 24 pages of back and forth nonsense, not that I wasn't a proud part of that nonsense. Of course, if anyone else who has been here before wants to reply to Vivian's posts, I implore you to reconsider. Do you really want this thread raging again?

I was just thinking that I'm a bit sick of this topic. The whole subjects annoys me greatly. Believe what you want but don't try to regulate other people's beliefs.

I can understand why it annoys you. It does me to. If you get pregnant you must take the resoncibility and give birth to the child. Even if you adopt it out. As long as a loving family adopts the baby.

No killing them.

And a thanks for you.

I'm so sick of these debates that make or break everything. Abortion, immigration, religion.
Pro-choice, let them go where they want, believe if you want and don't be a douche.

That's my word.

What about victims of rape? Children who have been molested? Why must you insist on forcing your beliefs on everyone else? What makes you more right than them?

Well, if you are going all allow rape victims abortions, let everyone get them, though, because it's still a baby, whether or not it was just accidental or forced.

But seriously, let's just stop posting here now. It's nice that new members come by and state their own opinions, but let's not get back into this...I can't help myself. I refuse to just ignore reopened threads like this.

That's exactly what I am saying. Whether or not to have an abortion should be up to the mother (and mother/father). If you don't personally agree, that's perfectly fine but trying to legislate other peoples choices based on your personal belief system is wrong.

Belief system? I know what you mean: I'm the only nonreligious pro-lifer here. My stance is just a belief, but I'm afraid it is not a part of a system. I'm just saying. Ah, I shouldn't even be here. That will encourage more dialogue then the rest of PTF will jump in.

Everyone has a belief system whether or not it's based in religion. It's just the set up beliefs that make up how you function in the world. AJ's is based in religion , mine is based in the vast array of my experiences.

Mine is based on situationism!