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There's not much more that needs to be said. Obviously, if all thinks were created at more or less at the same time by God, they would all return about the same age if tested by certain means of dating that are only accurate if they have always been at a constant rate, and obviously they haven't always been at a constant rate since they were all created.
WHAT????? Do you even understand the argument?? Do you know how radiometric dating works?? Obviously, all things DON'T return about the same age. So your point is totally wrong. Obviosuly, atomic decay of radioactive isotopes IS constant, we've directly observed these decay rates in super novas 200,000 years in the past and they were the same. If these decay rates DID change we wouldn't be able to use atomic energy.
The oldest rocks on earth and the moon date at a little over 4 billion years and they are dated by multiple methods. We have samples from then until now so obviously all things DON'T date at the same time.
Can you show us why these dates of 4 billion years plus are wrong? I mean technically show us....Since you make these claims that completely disprove modern physics and modern geology, you must have access to the raw data and you must be an accomplished physicist and geologist. So show us your data, show us the experiments you've done that disproves cutting edge, 21rst century science.......
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I just wonder how they test the accuracy of the dating methods. You can say that all of your tests suggest something is X years old, but you have no way of actually proving that unless you were X years old yourself...
Nonsense. First hand witnesses always make the for the worst evidence. No one was there, so what! We have evidence that the dates obtained are correct and NO evidence that they are wrong. AS I said before, different dating methods give us the same result, there is no reason these results would agree unless they were correct.
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WHAT????? Do you even understand the argument?? Do you know how radiometric dating works?? Obviously, all things DON'T return about the same age. So your point is totally wrong. Obviosuly, atomic decay of radioactive isotopes IS constant, we've directly observed these decay rates in super novas 200,000 years in the past and they were the same. If these decay rates DID change we wouldn't be able to use atomic energy.
The oldest rocks on earth and the moon date at a little over 4 billion years and they are dated by multiple methods. We have samples from then until now so obviously all things DON'T date at the same time.
Can you show us why these dates of 4 billion years plus are wrong? I mean technically show us....Since you make these claims that completely disprove modern physics and modern geology, you must have access to the raw data and you must be an accomplished physicist and geologist. So show us your data, show us the experiments you've done that disproves cutting edge, 21rst century science.......
You're being ridiculous. First of all, you're not making any sense. You first said that your dating methods 44 different dating methods give you the same date ("How can all the different dating methods science use to date the earth all be completely wrong and at the same time all give us the same age?? Could you possibly give us an explaination why 44 different methods of radiometric dating, all based on measuring decay of different isotopes, all give us the same wrong dates?"), then you say they don't give us the same date so my point is wrong ("Obviously, all things DON'T return about the same age. So your point is totally wrong.")

The decay of radioactive isotopes is constant now, but we have proof that it was NOT always constant.

My claims don't disprove anything. You and people like you just refuse to accept that there is evidence outside your agenda.
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Don't be silly, AJ. Of course there is no evidence outside of what we believe. If there was, don't you think we'd know?


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Except that the religious documents are all dated, and they've found multiple copies of each book, often written by different people (same event, different perspectives).
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An autobiography of Adam, explaining how he was created?
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what if we are all wrong and that something crazy created all of us i believe in Gos but with all the religions out there who is right the thought always comes to me when i think of other religions maybe Allah is the original or the buddists have it right u know what i'm sayin?
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Good way to think. Just believe what you want but it doesn't mean people need to try to discredit other beliefs.

Except maybe Scientology cuz that's a load.
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ya its a big shit of bull
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what if we are all wrong and that something crazy created all of us i believe in Gos but with all the religions out there who is right the thought always comes to me when i think of other religions maybe Allah is the original or the buddists have it right u know what i'm sayin?
Exactly. Nobody knows for sure who , if anyone, is right about religion.
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